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leeboard placement in relation to the mast?

 
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Jim Hart



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Location: Northern KY

PostPosted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 12:35 pm    Post subject: leeboard placement in relation to the mast? Reply with quote

Is there a proper place to put a leeboard in relation to
the mast?

The info I've found seems to expect a level of knowledge
or experience that is a little greater than I have at the
moment.

I've found this page and was going to base my leeboard
on info from there... but it doesn't say if there is a optimal
position that it should be mounted at.... ( unless I missed
that... re-reading it in a moment... )

http://www.enter.net/~skimmer/building/building.html
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 23, 2010 9:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I need to move my lee board forward to get a better point. I C clamped some ruff cut boards and sailed one day to find the sweet spot.

I like the rig you posted and will try to make a similar rig for my boat.
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Waterman



Joined: 02 Jan 2005
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Location: Tidewater, VA

PostPosted: Sat Jul 24, 2010 10:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually, the placement of the mast is related to the center of lateral resistance. Don't have my references available, will look tonight. That said, center of lateral resistance (leeboard down) should be slightly aft of the center of effort of the sail(s).

Cheers, Bill
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Waterman



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 24, 2010 11:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

According to Howard I. Chapelle,

"In centerboard hulls, the lead varies in general as the draft." "In shoal scows, sharpies, and V-bottom hulls having centerboards but little or no skeg or external keel, only the centerboard and 1/4 to 1/2 the rudder area are usually considered and the lead is usually .02 to .05."

This means that the center of effort should be about .02 - .05 of the length of the water line forward of the center of lateral resistance.

Cheers, Bill
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Jim Hart



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 24, 2010 12:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Waterman wrote:
According to Howard I. Chapelle,

"In centerboard hulls, the lead varies in general as the draft." "In shoal scows, sharpies, and V-bottom hulls having centerboards but little or no skeg or external keel, only the centerboard and 1/4 to 1/2 the rudder area are usually considered and the lead is usually .02 to .05."

This means that the center of effort should be about .02 - .05 of the length of the water line forward of the center of lateral resistance.

Cheers, Bill




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PostPosted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 4:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jim,

You should try to decipher his instructions for booms and spars.

Bill
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 2:41 pm    Post subject: lee board vs. sail position Reply with quote

Paul Daiute, please look away!
A boat designer named Jim Michalak posted a fairly simple explanation of sail center of effort and leeboard/centerboard position on his website. I found it through a link marked "Boards and Keels" on the left hand side of the homepage of the website www.PDRacer.com. Once you get to Mr. Michalak's website, scrool down to "Sail Area Math."
Perhaps this will help.
OK Paul, you can look now!
Tom
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